I wanted to share a discussion I had on a forum with an American Patriot, posting as “The Patriot”.
It was interesting, growing up in Canada and in the shadow of the UK and the US – and Canadian identity seemed unclear between these two nations. But now, I find the distinction glaring.
The Patriot’s text is left justified and my responses are indented with the left bar:
Sorry but when my ancestors immigrated on the mayflower from England to America they established a strong nation with Christian values and European traditions..These values and ideals then spread to Canada,we white people have been here now for many generations.
The Mayflower people were a particular group that settled in New England they were not the founding fathers of america – but a group of people who were intolerant and uptight and pretty much kicked out of England for being so.
You clearly don’t understand how Canada and the US were populated with many waves of immigrants, and American so call values didn’t migrate up to infect Canada – Canada is a very different country than the US. We like our capitalism tempered with socialism – capitalism with a heart.
I would say this country is ours as we are the first civil people to live here not that I hate other cultures and religions it’s just we are becoming too multicultural…
US is not multicultural, it’s a melting pot that reduces people down to the lowest common denominator. I would also suggest that there is yet to be civil people living in the states, given your statement, as you clearly do hate, fear and mistrust other cultures and have no confidence in your own or yourself to be so threatened.
If you had any self esteem or strong sense of culture, then that other people have a strong cultural identity wouldn’t bother you at all.
The aboriginal people who were in what became US and Canada were not technologically advanced, they were still essentially a stone aged culture were perfectly civil – they had strong cultures, oral traditions and they had complex societies and customs.
You are confusing technology with behavior – the way that the aboriginals were treated does not indicate civil behavior on the part of Europeans who arrived and slaughtered them to take the resources for themselves.
It is no longer acceptable to think in terms of nation, but we must think globally and the earth has many cultures – we are a multicultural species, regardless of your personal hermit isolationist and self centered preferences.
We need to have a stronghold for are values, Canada is a Christian stronghold whereas India is Hindi stronghold.It’s time Canada took a lesson from the great United states of America and started to stand up and protect our way of life.
Canada is not a stronghold or an imitation of America – we are a multicultural society and proud to be so.
There is no need to cling to one way of life – there are many ways to live – and what the essentials of life are – food, shelter, family – are the same in all cultures – the differences are all minor window dressing as to be the manner of dress, preparation of foods, all the how of what we do.
The United States hasn’t been great for a very long time – you started with a bang of humanist enlightenment and fizzled out as religion wormed it’s way into the halls of government.
And, the isolationist stance where you act as if you are not part of the world – despite the invitation to the poor for a better place to be.
We would be selling out our sovereignty if we didn’t. Sikhs are arrogant and they terrorists,They are committed too coming here to disrupt our way of life. I can tell you this ,a Sikh will never be in a position of power in this country.It’s time we brought back the old Canada.By the way I do not hate Sikhs themselves I just hate what they stand for.
You hate Sikhs for doing what you want to do – get your own place and build a fence around it and declare it wholly your own an independent of everyone else.
It is time to stop pining for what we think the old anything was and look to the future and new ways to share the planet
not be ostriches with heads in the sand or up their butts.