Hat Trick on Religion

Why rejecting religiously biased stories presented as documentaries is not closed minded.

When the basis of religion is unsound – that there’s a deity – the details of the story to support the essential claim don’t require that much consideration – especially when the only facts in said stories – that a city or person had existed, doesn’t make the story verified when the details of the story are not corroborated in secular histories or are not consistent with what’s known from other sources.

Basically, that the bible stories are set in real locations and include some real people is no more proof of the claim than Forest Gump being a documentary about a real person named Forest.

Documentaries purporting to support the religious stories are manufactured and twists the lack of evidence into the appearance of evidence is a foregone conclusion, when in the whole history of archeology, there’s not been one single artifact or record or site that remotely confirms any of the substantive god claims

James Cameron made that mistake when he rushed to present the James ossuary as evidence, despite the lack of clear chain of ownership and tests to show that the “brother of Jesus” portion of the engraving was carved centuries after the identification

If there was real evidence, we would have heard of it before this propaganda/confirmation bias film was made.

Rushing to a conclusion and attempting to make the appearance of fact be fact to support a forgone conclusion, is not a compelling way to make the case –  the closed mind belongs to those who try to justify a conclusion – not to people who follow facts to a conclusion.

These documentaries require not only closing your mind to the facts in favour of the preferred conclusion, but also closing your mind to understanding the process to arrive at conclusions, instead they start with the conclusion after the fact, then force or massage the facts to fit the conclusion, as opposed to the actual method of reaching conclusions by reviewing the facts and determining where they lead (to the conclusion).

Religion of Mass Destruction

There is certainly a direct parallel between how xtians treat atheists and how they treat gays. Xtians will justify any action by claiming a good intent trying to save someone else’s soul is not a good intent, it is an evil intent to assert their control over someone else’s life that they have no business even commenting on, never mind controlling I recognize the value of religion as a weapon of mass destruction of individual lives it should be afforded the same respect as you would any weapon that should be safely locked away from children and childlike adults who have no clue what they are wielding

Godbots get no respect

If a person wants respect for them and their beliefs, then they shouldn’t hold dear such stupid beliefs.

Showing respect when none is felt or deserved would be being a hypocrite, and it’s important to walk the talk, not do what you want and repent later. This is a major reason for the lack of respect towards believers, they do what they want and repent later as if it’s a direct wash – and yes, it is in their world view, but that’s not the worldview of the people they are demanding respect from.

Believers should demonstrate that their religion is what is advertised – a framework for moral conduct – because I’ve yet to see any religious person being moral in the public square – it’s all about condemning other people and denying them rights that they are due as citizens of the same country.

There is a lack of respect in the world and especially in the US, and it starts with the idea that one group is special above all others because of a set of shared beliefs. Until you don’t view yourself as above everyone else, no one is going to respect you as much as you respect you.

Believerscan’t seem to understand that everything they feel is the same was what everyone else feels,  it’s not special or divinely gifted just to them.

Everyone has the same needs, wants and desires; it’s when you adapt external beleifs that dictate or twist those into something alien to our nature – like sex is bad, unless it’s missionary within marriage –  like married people don’t like to mix it up and single people don’t really want sex – well, nice girls anyway.

It takes religion to really screw up rather simple creatures and make them think that the simple things are not universal and are unique to them; that thinking different means that everything else must be different to, because they just can’t understand how we can see and experience the same as they do, but arrive at different conclusions.

Believers are so afraid of being wrong, that they can’t accept that other people have the same need for community, affirmation/validation and love and needs and wants met and desires made possible.

heavy sigh

Imagining a world with that kind of mutual understanding makes me long to hear the Armstrong song What a Wonderful world without thinking of it as a bitter cliche.

4 thoughts on “Hat Trick on Religion

  1. This is more like a Gordie Howe hat trick (a goal, an assist, and a fight) than traditional one.

    As far as people believing archeological “evidence” with dubious provenance, millions still insist the shroud of Turin is authentic, despite irrefutable proof to the contrary. Never mind the also irrefutable fact that a cloth laid over a bloody face would not leave a naturalistic portrait behind but, rather, a stretched out, funhouse mirror impression of a face.

  2. Okay, Nina. I admire your prolific output of thoughts and ideas, but don’t you think you should spend a bit more time on proo freading? I know well the problems caused by being a fast typist, as you will see in my comments to onewiththeuniverse where I wrote “thing” instead of “think” among other typos. I can’t be too critical. But let’s not give the godbots any extra ammunition when they want to dismiss us. We owe it to our side not to be sloppy and not to make obvious grammatical mistakes.

    That said, all good points, and you get no arguments from me.

    • Yes, I do need to be more careful in proof reading – it’s been a lifelong challenge – not so much being a fast typist but being too fast a thinker and not paying attention to detail, I frequently don’t see the typos at all.

      Sometimes, I have, on occasion, left a type in, because reading for context you know what word should have been there, but the incorrect one is suggestive of additional interpretations.

      I am becoming very playful with language and it’s meanings – and have started to use it in new ways – for a small and specific example, the use of the / used between and/or to indicate either and or, I’ve started using with non/belief to indicate a either non-belief or belief

      The other part that I have come to realize is that I have mild dyslexia – a word I cannot pronounce at all – and that because I was such a high performing student in elementary school, it wasn’t ever identified as it would have been for other kids.

      I was also severely humiliated in second grade over my spelling of the word “because” – this discouraged me from identifying problems and as a consequence, never learned to compensate for this difficulty and simply avoided the problem by adopting a “don’t sweat the details” attitude towards spelling – and anything else that I had difficulty with to avoid being humiliated again.

      I imagine that it was the beginning of my lack of respect for callous authority too and why I use mine intentionally to avoid humiliating other people, with a few notable exceptions.

      and of course, religious authority is all about humiliating people and keeping them small, off balance and manageable – enough of a reason to never give religious authority a drop of respect, they are callous and self centered to their very core and any good that has come from that depraved and perverted foundation is purely accidental and likely, down to the people most removed from the seat of power in their religious structure.

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